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On the one hand we have people like yinzburgher fighting to keep COVID patients alive, while on the other hand we have dangerous idiots like Chief Justice Mogoeng [South Africa], who said people should be spared any vaccine that sought to ‘advance a satanic agenda of the mark of the beast.’
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yinzburgher wrote:This could be rambling and disorganized bc I'm not sure I really have any thoughts together.....but I just wanna spit some of this out before I go back to work again Thursday night. To be completely honest this is more about catharsis for me than it is about any useful information for anyone that might read it.

I had a little bit of time off. I got to see my parents (which was great for me) and I briefly saw one friend but that was about it. When you work with covid pts every day, it's a bit like wearing a scarlet letter.....I guess people are probably worried you could infect them. I'm certainly not trying to make anyone uncomfortable so I didn't really go out of my way to connect with anyone. They all have their bubbles at this point and I'm not a part of those bubbles. The irony here is that I'm probably one of the safer people you could be around. I see some of the sickest people so I have this cognitive bias that keeps me from behaviors that are considered risky with regard to covid. I certainly don't go to indoor locations with a lot of people. And I wear a PAPR when I'm with covid patients and a surgical mask around everybody else. Anyway..... On a related note, you find that most covid pts have a pretty good idea of how they got covid. They often know the setting or type of setting they got it, if not exactly who transmitted it to them.

After my break I worked six 12-hour nights in a row. One of those was an extra shift bc of how busy things are. I could probably work every single night if I wanted to. They asked me to work again tonight but my night off last night felt so good that I just wanted to do it again. And that would have been 11 out of 12 straight so I declined. They did bump my pay though, which is good. There is already plenty of motivation to do my best at work but the increased pay just adds to it.....and it keeps me from complaining about my assignment, workload, schedule, etc. Travel/contract nurses (particularly in ICU) are making crazy money right now but these hospitals need to make sure they're taking care of their own staff nurses too. For my part, I need to start getting better about bringing in food and coffee for my coworkers more often. They've been awesome and little things like that go a long way.

I'm working in a small ICU in a very small hospital. All six ICU beds are full. 5 out of 6 are covid and the last I knew there was another critical covid in the ER. At this point, if you're an ICU nurse, you're a COVID nurse. Speaking of....we have one travel nurse from NYC who was working there during the worst of it. He got out of there to "get away from COVID". I probably don't need to tell you that's impossible....especially in CA. A nice person and fairly bright but he's a newer nurse and gets very down when we have a pt that starts declining.....which I understand but we just need to be very cognizant and careful about. These people are already terrified bc of everything they've seen on the news. Some of them have family and friends that are sick or worse from covid. The last thing they need is somebody walking in with bad energy. So I spend a lot of time encouraging these pts and telling them (often in bad Spanglish) that they're doing a good job and they need to keep it up. Here's why in a quick snapshot of what could be your average ICU covid pt: Intubation and mechanical ventilation is sometimes necessary but it worsens a covid pt's prognosis so we try our hardest to avoid it. That means we have have a lot of pts on heated/humidified high-flow nasal oxygen (Airvo, Vapotherm, Optiflow) and some on BiPAP. And we often have to tolerate seeing their lower levels of oxygen bc we don't want to intubate them. And one thing that can really help these pt's oxygen levels is to turn them so they are laying face down on their stomach or at least their side. This can be uncomfortable for a lot of people, particularly many of the obese people that covid tends to hit hard. So now you have this pt who is not completely sedated bc they aren't on a ventilator. You isolate them from their family or any other visitors. You tell them they need to lay prone on their stomach and wear an uncomfortable mask that blasts O2 in their face. You put them on steroids which can make people anxious and emotional. You give them nothing but time to think about their predicament. They may also feel short of breath (although many of these COVID pts aren't short of breath which is another strange phenomena). Hopefully they can eat but some on BiPAP can't. Pills, injections, IVs, blood draws, getting tangled in their own monitoring wires, limited sleep, no privacy due to the constant monitoring, complete strangers in full PPE taking care of them, being told not to move too much bc their oxygen levels go too low.......it's **** miserable. So sometimes they need somebody to acknowledge that it sucks right now but that they're doing a good job and they need keep doing it....to give them a little motivation and encouragement and sense of agency and control over their situation. I won't lie to them or sugar-coat their medical status but they certainly don't need me walking in there with any sort of negative attitude.

OK, so all that said.....my confession is that I can't always keep it together on these video calls with family from inside the pt room. Often I can.....but some of these calls completely freaking destroy me. There is more to this than I can possibly explain here, but basically under normal circumstances my belief is that family members usually have other family members (that know them best) to console them. So while consolation and compassion is definitely a part of my job, it is more important that I educate them, that I communicate clearly and project calm, competence, and experience. That I can answer their questions at their level of understanding and tell them what's going on and what the game plan is. But it's all a little different now with covid and with almost no hospital visitation. Sometimes these families are relying on you for a little more. And seeing their faces rather than talking on the phone changes things too. I could probably keep it together if I let my mind be more distant or thought about baseball or some other little trick....but that doesn't seem entirely fair. Some of these family members have covid themselves. Often they are very worried, or grateful, or mourning. And like I said, I can usually keep it together.....but depending on the circumstances, sometimes these poor families are talking to a grown-ass man that can't even wipe away the tears or snot under his spacesuit. At one point a while ago somebody was saying a prayer on a video call and started crying. The prayer was in Farsi....I didn't understand a single word....but still the waterworks started on my end. If you asked a young yinzburgher what he thought he'd be doing for a living, nothing like this ever even enters the discussion. I'm no stranger to critical illness or death and dying......and my very first job years ago was probably good preparation for this, but things have just been different this year with covid. I'm optimistic overall, but I think I'm just sad for the way things are right now and will probably be for the coming months. Anyway, that's what I'm thinking for the moment. I hope everyone here is doing well.
I thought of you when I heard on the news about an increasing number of nurses at the braking point due to the current crises. Was tempted to ask what you're seeing but didn't want to pry. Your words crystallized this man made disaster unlike anything else I have read or seen. It should be mandatory mass media news coverage instead of the superfluous coverage we are fed.

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I work in grocery retail. I take the precautions seriously and managed to stay Covid-free from March 13 through October 25th. I went to the gym on October 26 (for the first time in 7 months) full masked and trying to get this ol’ body back into shape. 10 people in there and I was the only one wearing a mask. I had a decision to make....I made the wrong one. I stayed and worked out for an hour. 3 days later I felt like I’d been hit by a truck. Like strep throat, the flu and the worst sinus headache I’ve ever had. I tested positive and thankfully was already quarantining because I didn’t feel right. Gave it to my wife, but thank god no one else. 5 days of symptoms, including loss of taste and smell. Luckily no cough or upper respiratory issues. Took me 3 weeks to fully regain my taste, smell and stamina. According to the CDC we should be good for 4 months of immunity. That puts me into March. Hoping that there are vaccines available then. I don’t like the thought of going through that bastard twice.
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Thanks for sharing @yinzburgher. I always read your updates, but this one moved me to tears.

Our family has seen first hand the impact compassionate and competent medical staff can have on the well being of the patient and family.

You are doing God's work, and I cannot begin to thank you, and your colleagues and peers throughout the world enough.
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Will keep you in my prayers [mention]yinzburgher[/mention] . Keep fighting the good fight.
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On second thought, I've deleted this post to the best of my abilities. Got in trouble elsewhere for posting it so figured I'd play it safe here. Sorry for the interruption.
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As some know, I'm a family law and estate planning/administration attorney. Up until very recently I had not seen the direct impact of Covid, but next week I have three intakes for estate administration. All three are for Covid deaths and are males in their 50s, which is too young.
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So here's my COVID story that I'm fairly baffled by.

My wife's sister and nephew were going to drive down from Virginia to spend Christmas with us. Against CDC recommendations I know, but I wasn't winning that fight. I digress.

That meant we finally had to fix the giant hole in the wall of the guest bedroom we've ignored for years after a shower had leaked through from the adjoining bathroom. To fix the wall, had to make several trips to Lowe's for drywall, supplies, paint, etc. After patching the wall, wife sanded down the mud so we could start painting. This all took place during the week and a half leading to Christmas.

Christmas Day, sister in law and nephew arrive. We have a big Christmas dinner, exchange gifts, and hang out. They stay for a couple more days before driving back the following Monday.

From around Christmas, wife started to notice she had a dry cough. She thought it was due to either the drywall, drywall mud dust, stuff between the walls, whatever. But cough never really went away. As it was also a COVID symptom, she decided to have a test done. And dry cough has been the worst that she's felt. No loss of smell or taste, no fever, nothing. She took the test on New Year's Eve and got her results a couple of days later... POSITIVE

She let her sister know, who then went with the nephew to get a rapid test done...Both POSITIVE. Neither of them had any severe symptoms either.

Obviously figured I had it, but only symptom I had was the sniffles, which could be attributed to seasonal allergies. My wife scheduled a test for me, but the earliest available was on the 5th. Got tested and got my results this morning... NEGATIVE.

So little confused by the whole situation.
We could've infected them or they could've infected us, that's neither here nor there

But did I have a false negative?
Did the three of them have false positives?
What are the odds that everyone was basically asymptomatic?
Did I have it and get over it to the point where I'm testing negative now?
Am I somehow immune?

Need to get the antibody test done next time I see my doc to be sure.

But crazy, right?
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[mention]TheJohnP[/mention] it is all very confusing. I had been getting tested 2-3 times a week since the summer with a combination of PCR and rapid test . The week after I stop being tested regularly my wife tested positive. Without going into all of the details (which I am happy to do one-on-one) we have no idea who contracted it first. My son and I tested positive for antibodies so we had it at some point, but when I say that we had no symptoms...I mean no symptoms.

In our testing pool we probably had at least one false positive. Normally when you or someone in your household or contact group tests positive, you are out of the testing pool while in quarantine...but because of the volume and frequency of our tests we had some overlap in tests going out and results coming back. I wanted to look into the probability of false positives and negatives but couldn't find much to work with.

I don't think that I have ever tried to figure out where I caught a cold. Short of knowing that you were in very close contact with someone, it is almost impossible to do...but those of us that have had this experience seem to naturally ask this question.

Multiple clinics and even a grocery store pharmacy around here can to both short and long term antibody testing. The price has been $25-$50. Our insurance does cover the tests, but the clinics/labs did not know that at the time of testing and required payment up front...just something for everyone to think about.

It is all very strange indeed. I am glad to hear that your family is well! PM if you would like and I am happy to talk anytime.
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Thanks [mention]Split-Time[/mention].
And we should talk, considering we're practically neighbors and all!
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Asymptomatic %

https://hartfordhealthcare.org/about-us ... ymptomatic


The South Korean estimate of 30 percent is slightly lower than the asymptomatic figure offered by Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases. He said roughly 40 percent of Americans with COVID-19 are asymptomatic.

The new research also extended the length of time people are considered contagious. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recommends a 10- to 14-day quarantine period for anyone testing positive for the virus. The research from South Korea, however, found that asymptomatic people were contagious for about 17 days and those with symptoms were contagious for up to 20 days.

Such increased uncertainty is reason enough to continue following standard guidelines for wearing masks and maintaining social distance, according to Dr. Faiqa Cheema, an infectious disease specialist with Hartford HealthCare.

“A study published in the Lancet scientific journal reported that one meter or greater physical distance reduced risk of acquiring COVID-19 from 12.8 percent to 2.6 percent,” she said. “Wearing a face mask reduced risk of COVID-19 infection and transmission from 17.4 percent to 3.1 percent.”


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Fully vaccinated! I got my first dose of the Pfizer/BioNTech COVID vaccine on Saturday 12/19. Exactly 3 weeks later on this past Saturday 1/9, I got my second and final shot. According to the Phase III clinical trials, my superpower should be fully developed approximately 7 days after the second dose. And by superpower, I mean a markedly decreased risk of symptomatic COVID. This particular vaccine proved 95% effective in large-scale human trials.

So everyone (at work and otherwise) that finds out that someone has received a COVID vaccine seems to have just one question...."Did you have any side effects?" So that's what I'm posting here. Relatively boring, I know, but there must be interest because that's what people keep asking.

I got the first shot in my left shoulder at 7pm on 12/19. The shot itself did not hurt at all. In a few hours, I felt very mild tenderness in my deltoid that was gone after about 24 hours. I felt great (not just physically, but also extremely relieved to be getting the shot) so I signed up for an extra shift the night of 12/20 and went to sleep before my shift. About 18 hours after my shot, I woke up and noticed I was shaking, having chills. I turned the heat up a few degrees, popped two Tylenol, and immediately went back to sleep without any problems. When I woke up (about 22 hours after the shot) I felt completely normal. No further perceptible side effects.

I had read and heard numerous times that there may be more/increased side effects with the second dose. So I was happy that I didn't have to work on the nights of the 9th or the 10th. Shot number two on 1/9 was also at 7pm and also in my left deltoid. I felt the needle this time but once again, not painful. As far as tenderness, I had the exact same result.....arose within a few hours but gone by the 24 hour mark. At roughly 2-3am that night, I felt incredibly tired and had difficulty keeping my eyes open despite coffee. It's worth noting my normal sleep schedule is something like 10-11am to 5pm. I didn't really fight the sleepiness but instead just took a nap (an hour?). I had reason to be a bit tired....I had worked 12 hour shifts the previous 3 nights and the most recent one was very busy, I was on my feet and on the move all night. But the tiredness/fatigue seemed out of proportion to how I should have felt. I also may have had some slight muscle aches but it was so mild and I wondered if I was manufacturing this symptom in my head. Or it may have just been normal aches from a busy night of work. Anyway, that was it. I didn't take any medication. I feel completely fine/normal now. To be honest, I was expecting more....particularly after the second dose. I've read/heard multiple times that a low-grade fever, chills, headache, muscle aches, etc are a relatively common and expected response and a good sign that your body's immune system is reacting appropriately. Hopefully mine is doing just that despite few of these effects.

It's been quite a relief to be vaccinated. Every week there has been more and more employees at my hospital testing positive for COVID....including some that I work with on a regular basis. And we've been short-staffed because of it. Fortunately none of my co-worker have gotten as sick as our patients thus far. But it was becoming increasingly worrisome that I was much more at risk of catching COVID from my co-workers than I was from patients.

Here's a little unscientific experiment/polling I ran in the weeks and months prior to getting vaccinated. I find it a much more interesting topic than my vaccine side effects lol. I asked a number of people if they were getting the vaccine. I'm normally not so intrusive but most of these people had asked me first. A few others I know well and I actually felt comfortable asking. And others just offered the information. I also asked them why they would or would not get the vaccine. I just found it interesting to observe which of these people and which of these groups had actually put some rigorous thought into whether or not to get the vaccine......and what their reasons were. And which people made the effort to learn more about the vaccines and all their risks and benefits. If you ask even a few people the same questions, I think you'll likely start to see some trends develop.
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yinzburgher wrote:Fully vaccinated! I got my first dose of the Pfizer/BioNTech COVID vaccine on Saturday 12/19. Exactly 3 weeks later on this past Saturday 1/9, I got my second and final shot. According to the Phase III clinical trials, my superpower should be fully developed approximately 7 days after the second dose. And by superpower, I mean a markedly decreased risk of symptomatic COVID. This particular vaccine proved 95% effective in large-scale human trials.

So everyone (at work and otherwise) that finds out that someone has received a COVID vaccine seems to have just one question...."Did you have any side effects?" So that's what I'm posting here. Relatively boring, I know, but there must be interest because that's what people keep asking.

I got the first shot in my left shoulder at 7pm on 12/19. The shot itself did not hurt at all. In a few hours, I felt very mild tenderness in my deltoid that was gone after about 24 hours. I felt great (not just physically, but also extremely relieved to be getting the shot) so I signed up for an extra shift the night of 12/20 and went to sleep before my shift. About 18 hours after my shot, I woke up and noticed I was shaking, having chills. I turned the heat up a few degrees, popped two Tylenol, and immediately went back to sleep without any problems. When I woke up (about 22 hours after the shot) I felt completely normal. No further perceptible side effects.

I had read and heard numerous times that there may be more/increased side effects with the second dose. So I was happy that I didn't have to work on the nights of the 9th or the 10th. Shot number two on 1/9 was also at 7pm and also in my left deltoid. I felt the needle this time but once again, not painful. As far as tenderness, I had the exact same result.....arose within a few hours but gone by the 24 hour mark. At roughly 2-3am that night, I felt incredibly tired and had difficulty keeping my eyes open despite coffee. It's worth noting my normal sleep schedule is something like 10-11am to 5pm. I didn't really fight the sleepiness but instead just took a nap (an hour?). I had reason to be a bit tired....I had worked 12 hour shifts the previous 3 nights and the most recent one was very busy, I was on my feet and on the move all night. But the tiredness/fatigue seemed out of proportion to how I should have felt. I also may have had some slight muscle aches but it was so mild and I wondered if I was manufacturing this symptom in my head. Or it may have just been normal aches from a busy night of work. Anyway, that was it. I didn't take any medication. I feel completely fine/normal now. To be honest, I was expecting more....particularly after the second dose. I've read/heard multiple times that a low-grade fever, chills, headache, muscle aches, etc are a relatively common and expected response and a good sign that your body's immune system is reacting appropriately. Hopefully mine is doing just that despite few of these effects.

It's been quite a relief to be vaccinated. Every week there has been more and more employees at my hospital testing positive for COVID....including some that I work with on a regular basis. And we've been short-staffed because of it. Fortunately none of my co-worker have gotten as sick as our patients thus far. But it was becoming increasingly worrisome that I was much more at risk of catching COVID from my co-workers than I was from patients.

Here's a little unscientific experiment/polling I ran in the weeks and months prior to getting vaccinated. I find it a much more interesting topic than my vaccine side effects lol. I asked a number of people if they were getting the vaccine. I'm normally not so intrusive but most of these people had asked me first. A few others I know well and I actually felt comfortable asking. And others just offered the information. I also asked them why they would or would not get the vaccine. I just found it interesting to observe which of these people and which of these groups had actually put some rigorous thought into whether or not to get the vaccine......and what their reasons were. And which people made the effort to learn more about the vaccines and all their risks and benefits. If you ask even a few people the same questions, I think you'll likely start to see some trends develop.
That's gotta be quite a relief! My mom got it and had severe body aches for about 24 hours after round 2, but she's 60ish. Aside from that she had no other side effects.

As for asking people if They are gonna get the vaccine, I've only had discussion with two people. One (the owner of an HVAC company I work with) was stoked that us essential workers can be among the first 4 groups eligible. The other was when my best friends wife mentioned they weren't going to vaccinate their 6 month old. Not just for COVID, but all vaccines in general. My wife is still a little mad at me because I got into it with my buddies wife once she told me I should "do my research".

Everyone is entitled to whether or not they want to have their kids vaccinated, but I highly recommend at looking into what life was like before vaccines vs what Jenny Mcarthy has to say. And it's sad that if she stays commited to this idea, my future kids won't be able to play with theirs.

Sorry for the rant, and I plan to get the vaccine as soon as I am able. And it's good to hear it wasn't too bad for you. I'll still probably go on a Friday just to be safe.

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Dub Rubb wrote: Tue Jan 12, 2021 8:51 pm
yinzburgher wrote:Fully vaccinated! I got my first dose of the Pfizer/BioNTech COVID vaccine on Saturday 12/19. Exactly 3 weeks later on this past Saturday 1/9, I got my second and final shot. According to the Phase III clinical trials, my superpower should be fully developed approximately 7 days after the second dose. And by superpower, I mean a markedly decreased risk of symptomatic COVID. This particular vaccine proved 95% effective in large-scale human trials.

So everyone (at work and otherwise) that finds out that someone has received a COVID vaccine seems to have just one question...."Did you have any side effects?" So that's what I'm posting here. Relatively boring, I know, but there must be interest because that's what people keep asking.

I got the first shot in my left shoulder at 7pm on 12/19. The shot itself did not hurt at all. In a few hours, I felt very mild tenderness in my deltoid that was gone after about 24 hours. I felt great (not just physically, but also extremely relieved to be getting the shot) so I signed up for an extra shift the night of 12/20 and went to sleep before my shift. About 18 hours after my shot, I woke up and noticed I was shaking, having chills. I turned the heat up a few degrees, popped two Tylenol, and immediately went back to sleep without any problems. When I woke up (about 22 hours after the shot) I felt completely normal. No further perceptible side effects.

I had read and heard numerous times that there may be more/increased side effects with the second dose. So I was happy that I didn't have to work on the nights of the 9th or the 10th. Shot number two on 1/9 was also at 7pm and also in my left deltoid. I felt the needle this time but once again, not painful. As far as tenderness, I had the exact same result.....arose within a few hours but gone by the 24 hour mark. At roughly 2-3am that night, I felt incredibly tired and had difficulty keeping my eyes open despite coffee. It's worth noting my normal sleep schedule is something like 10-11am to 5pm. I didn't really fight the sleepiness but instead just took a nap (an hour?). I had reason to be a bit tired....I had worked 12 hour shifts the previous 3 nights and the most recent one was very busy, I was on my feet and on the move all night. But the tiredness/fatigue seemed out of proportion to how I should have felt. I also may have had some slight muscle aches but it was so mild and I wondered if I was manufacturing this symptom in my head. Or it may have just been normal aches from a busy night of work. Anyway, that was it. I didn't take any medication. I feel completely fine/normal now. To be honest, I was expecting more....particularly after the second dose. I've read/heard multiple times that a low-grade fever, chills, headache, muscle aches, etc are a relatively common and expected response and a good sign that your body's immune system is reacting appropriately. Hopefully mine is doing just that despite few of these effects.

It's been quite a relief to be vaccinated. Every week there has been more and more employees at my hospital testing positive for COVID....including some that I work with on a regular basis. And we've been short-staffed because of it. Fortunately none of my co-worker have gotten as sick as our patients thus far. But it was becoming increasingly worrisome that I was much more at risk of catching COVID from my co-workers than I was from patients.

Here's a little unscientific experiment/polling I ran in the weeks and months prior to getting vaccinated. I find it a much more interesting topic than my vaccine side effects lol. I asked a number of people if they were getting the vaccine. I'm normally not so intrusive but most of these people had asked me first. A few others I know well and I actually felt comfortable asking. And others just offered the information. I also asked them why they would or would not get the vaccine. I just found it interesting to observe which of these people and which of these groups had actually put some rigorous thought into whether or not to get the vaccine......and what their reasons were. And which people made the effort to learn more about the vaccines and all their risks and benefits. If you ask even a few people the same questions, I think you'll likely start to see some trends develop.
That's gotta be quite a relief! My mom got it and had severe body aches for about 24 hours after round 2, but she's 60ish. Aside from that she had no other side effects.

As for asking people if They are gonna get the vaccine, I've only had discussion with two people. One (the owner of an HVAC company I work with) was stoked that us essential workers can be among the first 4 groups eligible. The other was when my best friends wife mentioned they weren't going to vaccinate their 6 month old. Not just for COVID, but all vaccines in general.My wife is still a little mad at me because I got into it with my buddies wife once she told me I should "do my research".

Everyone is entitled to whether or not they want to have their kids vaccinated, but I highly recommend at looking into what life was like before vaccines vs what Jenny Mcarthy has to say. And it's sad that if she stays commited to this idea, my future kids won't be able to play with theirs.

Sorry for the rant, and I plan to get the vaccine as soon as I am able. And it's good to hear it wasn't too bad for you. I'll still probably go on a Friday just to be safe.

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That is child abuse.
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Re: COVID-19 Impacts- No Conspiracy Theories

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yinzburgher wrote:Fully vaccinated! I got my first dose of the Pfizer/BioNTech COVID vaccine on Saturday 12/19. Exactly 3 weeks later on this past Saturday 1/9, I got my second and final shot. According to the Phase III clinical trials, my superpower should be fully developed approximately 7 days after the second dose. And by superpower, I mean a markedly decreased risk of symptomatic COVID. This particular vaccine proved 95% effective in large-scale human trials.

So everyone (at work and otherwise) that finds out that someone has received a COVID vaccine seems to have just one question...."Did you have any side effects?" So that's what I'm posting here. Relatively boring, I know, but there must be interest because that's what people keep asking.

I got the first shot in my left shoulder at 7pm on 12/19. The shot itself did not hurt at all. In a few hours, I felt very mild tenderness in my deltoid that was gone after about 24 hours. I felt great (not just physically, but also extremely relieved to be getting the shot) so I signed up for an extra shift the night of 12/20 and went to sleep before my shift. About 18 hours after my shot, I woke up and noticed I was shaking, having chills. I turned the heat up a few degrees, popped two Tylenol, and immediately went back to sleep without any problems. When I woke up (about 22 hours after the shot) I felt completely normal. No further perceptible side effects.

I had read and heard numerous times that there may be more/increased side effects with the second dose. So I was happy that I didn't have to work on the nights of the 9th or the 10th. Shot number two on 1/9 was also at 7pm and also in my left deltoid. I felt the needle this time but once again, not painful. As far as tenderness, I had the exact same result.....arose within a few hours but gone by the 24 hour mark. At roughly 2-3am that night, I felt incredibly tired and had difficulty keeping my eyes open despite coffee. It's worth noting my normal sleep schedule is something like 10-11am to 5pm. I didn't really fight the sleepiness but instead just took a nap (an hour?). I had reason to be a bit tired....I had worked 12 hour shifts the previous 3 nights and the most recent one was very busy, I was on my feet and on the move all night. But the tiredness/fatigue seemed out of proportion to how I should have felt. I also may have had some slight muscle aches but it was so mild and I wondered if I was manufacturing this symptom in my head. Or it may have just been normal aches from a busy night of work. Anyway, that was it. I didn't take any medication. I feel completely fine/normal now. To be honest, I was expecting more....particularly after the second dose. I've read/heard multiple times that a low-grade fever, chills, headache, muscle aches, etc are a relatively common and expected response and a good sign that your body's immune system is reacting appropriately. Hopefully mine is doing just that despite few of these effects.

It's been quite a relief to be vaccinated. Every week there has been more and more employees at my hospital testing positive for COVID....including some that I work with on a regular basis. And we've been short-staffed because of it. Fortunately none of my co-worker have gotten as sick as our patients thus far. But it was becoming increasingly worrisome that I was much more at risk of catching COVID from my co-workers than I was from patients.

Here's a little unscientific experiment/polling I ran in the weeks and months prior to getting vaccinated. I find it a much more interesting topic than my vaccine side effects lol. I asked a number of people if they were getting the vaccine. I'm normally not so intrusive but most of these people had asked me first. A few others I know well and I actually felt comfortable asking. And others just offered the information. I also asked them why they would or would not get the vaccine. I just found it interesting to observe which of these people and which of these groups had actually put some rigorous thought into whether or not to get the vaccine......and what their reasons were. And which people made the effort to learn more about the vaccines and all their risks and benefits. If you ask even a few people the same questions, I think you'll likely start to see some trends develop.
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Yinz! Glad to hear you got both vaccines in. You were one of the first I thought about when the rollout began. I have yet to go back through the thread to fully catch-up, but wanted to comment on the vaccine.

I received my first dose (Moderna) this past Saturday 1/9. Scheduled to get my second on 2/6. Since I'm not hospital staff, I wasn't part of the first group to be eligible. But also because I work in hospitals with patient contact, I became part of group 1a to get it soon in January.

My side effects were more mild than yours. Actually I really can't tell you that I have had any from the first dose. My shoulder was slightly sore and tight. But I've felt worse from hard gym days. I do hear round 2 can be a doozy for some, though considering most hospital staff I work with at the many hospitals have received their second dose already, the side effects really range from nothing to flu like sickness.

Anyway hope all of y'all are well and healthy. Same with your loved ones.



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