Definitely! Tried it nonetheless...no go.AndyS wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 3:47 pmThis could be genius. Or the ultimate troll!lew_zealand wrote: ↑Tue May 26, 2020 7:15 pm Is it possible the caseback is threaded backwards and you want to try twisting in a clockwise fashion?
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Heh. I was wondering if you would. Maybe you just didn't try hard enough?watchpalooza wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 4:52 pmDefinitely! Tried it nonetheless...no go.AndyS wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 3:47 pmThis could be genius. Or the ultimate troll!lew_zealand wrote: ↑Tue May 26, 2020 7:15 pm Is it possible the caseback is threaded backwards and you want to try twisting in a clockwise fashion?
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Not trolling. Just trying to think outside the case box.AndyS wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 3:47 pmThis could be genius. Or the ultimate troll!lew_zealand wrote: ↑Tue May 26, 2020 7:15 pm Is it possible the caseback is threaded backwards and you want to try twisting in a clockwise fashion?
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Admit it, you were trying to get him to make it even tighter. I see your gamelew_zealand wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 4:32 pmNot trolling. Just trying to think outside the case box.AndyS wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 3:47 pmThis could be genius. Or the ultimate troll!lew_zealand wrote: ↑Tue May 26, 2020 7:15 pm Is it possible the caseback is threaded backwards and you want to try twisting in a clockwise fashion?
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PB Blaster is the product of choice to get rusty stuff loose here on the farm. Let it soak overnight and then use an extension, normally a piece of pipe, over the ratchet for extra leverage. If that doesn’t work then it gets the oxy-acetylene torch, first a little heat, then more heat, then a lot more heat. It can’t be stuck if it’s liquid, right?
I’ve used a nut-splitter with some success in spots where a torch wasn’t an option. That method might work but it would destroy the case back.
I think you will struggle until you can get access to a bench vise or a similar method to hold it more securely. I remember someone building a jig using a 2x6 piece of wood and either using a router after tracing the outline of the case or a small chisel to form the recess. Looked like it might work. Good luck.
I’ve used a nut-splitter with some success in spots where a torch wasn’t an option. That method might work but it would destroy the case back.
I think you will struggle until you can get access to a bench vise or a similar method to hold it more securely. I remember someone building a jig using a 2x6 piece of wood and either using a router after tracing the outline of the case or a small chisel to form the recess. Looked like it might work. Good luck.
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[mention]watchpalooza[/mention] , I was trying to change the ball on a trailer hitch tonight and thought of you and this thread.
We have a couple of different trailers that we use in the farm and, of course, they use different sized balls. The drop on one of the hitches was too low and I needed to replace it with a straighter hitch and a smaller ball. Anyway, I grabbed a couple of pipe wrenches put the hitch in the vise and attempted to turn it, no go as it wouldn’t budge.
I soaked it with PB Blaster for a couple of days and nothing, it was on to stay. As I mentioned in a previous post here, I got the torch and put the heat to it. After a few tries of heating and wrenching, I finally broke the nut loose but it didn’t want to completely unscrew. Realize that I was using a 24” pipe wrench and it still wouldn’t come undone.
After some sweating and cussing I got a 4’ piece of pipe for leverage and really started to crank on it but the more I turned the nut the tighter it got. I believed it would finally loosen, it had to, as I was really wrenching on it. After a few more squirts of PB and more torque, it finally broke loose and fell to the ground.
But it hadn’t unscrewed, I had sheared the hitch bolt! Unbelievable, this is a big bolt and I couldn’t believe it had sheared off. Crazy, but at least I can replace the ball now.
This isn’t going to help with your case back but thought I would share a similar story of frustration. I hope you’ve made some progress with the watch.
Some pics, the quarter is for size reference. Excuse the dirty shop, it’s a wreck with all of the projects going on during lockdown.
2 5/16” ball Sheared hitch bolt 18” and 24” pipe wrenches
We have a couple of different trailers that we use in the farm and, of course, they use different sized balls. The drop on one of the hitches was too low and I needed to replace it with a straighter hitch and a smaller ball. Anyway, I grabbed a couple of pipe wrenches put the hitch in the vise and attempted to turn it, no go as it wouldn’t budge.
I soaked it with PB Blaster for a couple of days and nothing, it was on to stay. As I mentioned in a previous post here, I got the torch and put the heat to it. After a few tries of heating and wrenching, I finally broke the nut loose but it didn’t want to completely unscrew. Realize that I was using a 24” pipe wrench and it still wouldn’t come undone.
After some sweating and cussing I got a 4’ piece of pipe for leverage and really started to crank on it but the more I turned the nut the tighter it got. I believed it would finally loosen, it had to, as I was really wrenching on it. After a few more squirts of PB and more torque, it finally broke loose and fell to the ground.
But it hadn’t unscrewed, I had sheared the hitch bolt! Unbelievable, this is a big bolt and I couldn’t believe it had sheared off. Crazy, but at least I can replace the ball now.
This isn’t going to help with your case back but thought I would share a similar story of frustration. I hope you’ve made some progress with the watch.
Some pics, the quarter is for size reference. Excuse the dirty shop, it’s a wreck with all of the projects going on during lockdown.
2 5/16” ball Sheared hitch bolt 18” and 24” pipe wrenches
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14 sided caseback openers.
Use the Esslinger table to see what size is correct and try Ali for a cheaper option.
https://www.esslinger.com/individual-br ... ning-dies/
https://www.aliexpress.com/i/32798099510.html
https://www.aliexpress.com/i/1850809457.html
Use the Esslinger table to see what size is correct and try Ali for a cheaper option.
https://www.esslinger.com/individual-br ... ning-dies/
https://www.aliexpress.com/i/32798099510.html
https://www.aliexpress.com/i/1850809457.html
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tjcdas wrote: ↑Fri Jun 19, 2020 10:48 am 14 sided caseback openers.
Use the Esslinger table to see what size is correct and try Ali for a cheaper option.
https://www.esslinger.com/individual-br ... ning-dies/
https://www.aliexpress.com/i/32798099510.html
https://www.aliexpress.com/i/1850809457.html
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https://omegaforums.net/threads/sicura- ... el.128552/
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Rabirnie wrote: ↑Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:49 pm https://omegaforums.net/threads/sicura- ... el.128552/
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I don't want to win a watch, but I do want to help!
Borrowed this from Vincenzo, one of the BSH guys who has forgotten more about watches than I'll ever know.
"Usually, there is no need for a sticky ball, or a fancy case opener set when you have a nice big roll of duct tape at your disposal.
What you do is pull out enough, say about 60-70% of the circumfence, and don’t tare it off, just fold it back over the roll. The length must be enough, so you can reach both ends comfortably with your fingertips. Then the trick is, once you have both ends at a firm grip, your thumb at one end and two fingers at the other, to apply lots of tension, so that the piece that now has the sticky bit outside is held very tightly against the roll. The tighter the better.
Then stick your watch to the roll somewhere halfway the sticky bit. The watch will now also comfortably adhere to the surface, which decreases the chance of it flying to a poor landing.
Then press down on the watch just as firmly as the other hand keeps the tape at tension, and turn the roll and the watch so that the caseback comes loose.
The action resembles what you would do with a sticky ball, only the roll of tape is now the sticky tool.
Same as with a sticky ball, chances of scratching your caseback are virtually zero. What I have noticed a lot by now, is when the sticky ball fails, the ducttape method often will get the job done, so my experience is, it works even better.
You also don’t really waste the piece of tape, as once done, you just remove the watch from the tape and fold the tape over the roll again."
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Borrowed this from Vincenzo, one of the BSH guys who has forgotten more about watches than I'll ever know.
"Usually, there is no need for a sticky ball, or a fancy case opener set when you have a nice big roll of duct tape at your disposal.
What you do is pull out enough, say about 60-70% of the circumfence, and don’t tare it off, just fold it back over the roll. The length must be enough, so you can reach both ends comfortably with your fingertips. Then the trick is, once you have both ends at a firm grip, your thumb at one end and two fingers at the other, to apply lots of tension, so that the piece that now has the sticky bit outside is held very tightly against the roll. The tighter the better.
Then stick your watch to the roll somewhere halfway the sticky bit. The watch will now also comfortably adhere to the surface, which decreases the chance of it flying to a poor landing.
Then press down on the watch just as firmly as the other hand keeps the tape at tension, and turn the roll and the watch so that the caseback comes loose.
The action resembles what you would do with a sticky ball, only the roll of tape is now the sticky tool.
Same as with a sticky ball, chances of scratching your caseback are virtually zero. What I have noticed a lot by now, is when the sticky ball fails, the ducttape method often will get the job done, so my experience is, it works even better.
You also don’t really waste the piece of tape, as once done, you just remove the watch from the tape and fold the tape over the roll again."
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I starred in your prequel movie with a Seiko FlightMaster Chrono two-tone with a SS back.
The epoxy guy is almost right. Clean the case back well, super-glue a bolt on with loctite 401. You need the surface area of the bolt. Let it sit a long time. Hours.
https://www.henkel-adhesives.com/us/en/ ... e_401.html
PB Blaster is old tech. SpinOff is what you need. Link and Sweet Proj Cars video of it in action follow.
http://encoreindustrial.com/spin-off-th ... penetrant/
When you get the back off, soak it in acetone for a couple hours, maybe overnite to dissolve the 401.
The epoxy guy is almost right. Clean the case back well, super-glue a bolt on with loctite 401. You need the surface area of the bolt. Let it sit a long time. Hours.
https://www.henkel-adhesives.com/us/en/ ... e_401.html
PB Blaster is old tech. SpinOff is what you need. Link and Sweet Proj Cars video of it in action follow.
http://encoreindustrial.com/spin-off-th ... penetrant/
When you get the back off, soak it in acetone for a couple hours, maybe overnite to dissolve the 401.
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I have sets of both metric and inch sockets. I bet one of them would work. Bring it by my place next time you are in St Louis and we can give it a try
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What an absolutely fascinating thread, . . . . I wait with baited breath on the next suggestion, attempt and progress (or lack thereof) report. And, yet, I must also confess to some sadness in the realization that this must, inevitably, one day, come to an end.