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Here is my latest arrival from Tokyo- SBDY059 (JDM version of SRPE29K1), stock with Seiko's misaligned chapter ring print. Some quick photos before heading out to the mountains for a long weekend...

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peskydonut wrote:Here is my latest arrival from Tokyo- SBDY059 (JDM version of SRPE29K1), stock with Seiko's misaligned chapter ring print. Some quick photos before heading out to the mountains for a long weekend...

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Seikos confuse me. I fail to understand the attraction with widespread misalignment / QC issues.
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watchpalooza wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:15 pm Seikos confuse me. I fail to understand the attraction with widespread misalignment / QC issues.
Well...I can't speak for others, but in my case, it's pretty straightforward...I liked the look of the watch, so I bought it. Wasn't planning on misalignment, but that's what I got. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Would I rather have a watch that's properly aligned? Of course. Do I have more pressing things to be preoccupied with than a 1/4mm imperfection on my luxury item? You bet.
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peskydonut wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:39 pm
watchpalooza wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:15 pm Seikos confuse me. I fail to understand the attraction with widespread misalignment / QC issues.
Well...I can't speak for others, but in my case, it's pretty straightforward...I liked the look of the watch, so I bought it. Wasn't planning on misalignment, but that's what I got. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Would I rather have a watch that's properly aligned? Of course. Do I have more pressing things to be preoccupied with than a 1/4mm imperfection on my luxury item? You bet.
The watch is beautiful. Not a criticism at all....just surprised Seiko doesn‘t do something about it since it is pretty well-known. And hopefully the more expensive Seikos (> $600) don‘t have the same issues?
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watchpalooza wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:43 pm
peskydonut wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:39 pm
watchpalooza wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:15 pm Seikos confuse me. I fail to understand the attraction with widespread misalignment / QC issues.
Well...I can't speak for others, but in my case, it's pretty straightforward...I liked the look of the watch, so I bought it. Wasn't planning on misalignment, but that's what I got. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Would I rather have a watch that's properly aligned? Of course. Do I have more pressing things to be preoccupied with than a 1/4mm imperfection on my luxury item? You bet.
The watch is beautiful. Not a criticism at all....just surprised Seiko doesn‘t do something about it since it is pretty well-known. And hopefully the more expensive Seikos (> $600) don‘t have the same issues?
No offense taken. I completely agreed on Seiko; it would behoove then to fix their QC issues. For what it's worth, I have a few Seikos and this is the first one with alignment issues. Both of the CW Dartmouths I received had slightly misaligned print on the bezel.
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ManOnTime wrote:
peskydonut wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:09 pm Image

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peskydonut wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 1:06 pm
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peskydonut wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:09 pm Image

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watchpalooza wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:15 pm Seikos confuse me. I fail to understand the attraction with widespread misalignment / QC issues.
From a business perspective they see no need to improve as long as they keep moving product.

Can't speak to the buyer's rationale though
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watchpalooza wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:43 pm
peskydonut wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:39 pm
watchpalooza wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:15 pm Seikos confuse me. I fail to understand the attraction with widespread misalignment / QC issues.
Well...I can't speak for others, but in my case, it's pretty straightforward...I liked the look of the watch, so I bought it. Wasn't planning on misalignment, but that's what I got. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Would I rather have a watch that's properly aligned? Of course. Do I have more pressing things to be preoccupied with than a 1/4mm imperfection on my luxury item? You bet.
The watch is beautiful. Not a criticism at all....just surprised Seiko doesn‘t do something about it since it is pretty well-known. And hopefully the more expensive Seikos (> $600) don‘t have the same issues?
I don’t know why they don’t fix this either. It is probably a minority of people that notice it/care. If people buy the watches as they are then why address what is essentially a non-issue. On the other hand, the misaligned chapter ring is a craftsmanship/workmanship issue. If they allow poor detail work that you can see, just think of what they allow where you can’t see it.

I am not saying that there are internal issues, but once you see something like this over and over then doubts of the general quality surely creep into the heads of at least some potential customers.

That isn’t to say that Seiko doesn’t make good watches, they clearly do. Just with their move to go up-market you would think that there would be enough extra margin to address this issue and show people they care about the details that people obsess over.
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TheJohnP wrote:
watchpalooza wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:15 pm Seikos confuse me. I fail to understand the attraction with widespread misalignment / QC issues.
From a business perspective they see no need to improve as long as they keep moving product.

Can't speak to the buyer's rationale though
I'm not sure what "buyer's rationale" there is to speak of. The rationale is the same as when you go to the grocery store and expect the food that you buy to not be spoiled or expecting the car that you purchase to be without flaws. The baseline expectation is to exchange money for goods; goods that are provided as advertised.

Is the implication that consumers are to blame because they don't collectively take action against Seiko (i.e. boycott or lawsuit)?
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peskydonut wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 3:30 pm
TheJohnP wrote:
watchpalooza wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:15 pm Seikos confuse me. I fail to understand the attraction with widespread misalignment / QC issues.
From a business perspective they see no need to improve as long as they keep moving product.

Can't speak to the buyer's rationale though
I'm not sure what "buyer's rationale" there is to speak of. The rationale is the same as when you go to the grocery store and expect the food that you buy to not be spoiled or expecting the car that you purchase to be without flaws. The baseline expectation is to exchange money for goods; goods that are provided as advertised.

Is the implication that consumers are to blame because they don't collectively take action against Seiko (i.e. boycott or lawsuit)?
All I am implying is it seems everyone either complains and/or jokes about alignment issues with Seiko. But continue to buy them. Does the fault fall to Seiko?

As long as Seiko keeps selling heaps of watches with issues and no consumer blowback, they have no reason to improve. Or maybe there are people complaining to Seiko? I'm just watching from well past the sidelines.
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The thought of a flat dark earth dive watch has never crossed my mind, but "wow!" Very cool [mention]peskydonut[/mention] . Enjoy your time in the mountains!
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