Re: Fuel Sniffers Anonymous (The Thread For Car Nuts)
Posted: Thu May 20, 2021 10:27 am
I love my 97 cr-v, I'll keep it forever but man that truck is cool
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The rebates are per model, not per manufacturer.Sussa wrote: ↑Thu May 20, 2021 12:27 pm That F150 is a car camping dream. Put a camper conversion on the bed and you're good to go - plenty of room for all the gear, outlets if you need electricity. And Ford's been so behind on the EV market that they're still eligible for a $7500 federal tax credit in the US. But then there's this:
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I really dislike this trend toward large touchscreen interfaces for consoles. Maybe I'm becoming a luddite, but it seems like a recipe for distracted driving. You can feel for a physical volume or climate control knob once you learn roughly where it is. I can't imagine using this without taking your eyes off the road.
I have to respectfully correct you. The remaining credit is by manufacturer, not model. Source: https://www.irs.gov/businesses/plug-in- ... nd-irc-30d. This is why the majority of Tesla's credits were gone by the time the Model 3 hit. Tesla and GM are the only manufacturers who have sold through the 200,000. From what I can find Ford looks to be in the 130,000 range. So those remaining 70,000 will likely go real quick after this F150 is available.ManOnTime wrote: ↑Thu May 20, 2021 1:25 pmThe rebates are per model, not per manufacturer.Sussa wrote: ↑Thu May 20, 2021 12:27 pm That F150 is a car camping dream. Put a camper conversion on the bed and you're good to go - plenty of room for all the gear, outlets if you need electricity. And Ford's been so behind on the EV market that they're still eligible for a $7500 federal tax credit in the US. But then there's this:
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I really dislike this trend toward large touchscreen interfaces for consoles. Maybe I'm becoming a luddite, but it seems like a recipe for distracted driving. You can feel for a physical volume or climate control knob once you learn roughly where it is. I can't imagine using this without taking your eyes off the road.
Ford's been into EVs since at least the early 1990s (conceptually and internal R&D). There was a Ranger EV that was sold mostly to fleet users from 1998-2002. In the retail space, Ford has been selling hybrid and PHEVs since 2005, and an all-electric version of the Focus from 2012-2018. They aren't new to the electricfied game. (But yes, their electric vehicles haven't been hot sellers, but this truck should change that.)
I share some of your concerns about the screen. 15" seems a little bit overkill.
The credit you linked is for business and/or self-employed tax purposes.Boourns wrote: ↑Thu May 20, 2021 2:33 pmI have to respectfully correct you. The remaining credit is by manufacturer, not model. Source: https://www.irs.gov/businesses/plug-in- ... nd-irc-30d. This is why the majority of Tesla's credits were gone by the time the Model 3 hit. Tesla and GM are the only manufacturers who have sold through the 200,000. From what I can find Ford looks to be in the 130,000 range. So those remaining 70,000 will likely go real quick after this F150 is available.ManOnTime wrote: ↑Thu May 20, 2021 1:25 pmThe rebates are per model, not per manufacturer.Sussa wrote: ↑Thu May 20, 2021 12:27 pm That F150 is a car camping dream. Put a camper conversion on the bed and you're good to go - plenty of room for all the gear, outlets if you need electricity. And Ford's been so behind on the EV market that they're still eligible for a $7500 federal tax credit in the US. But then there's this:
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I really dislike this trend toward large touchscreen interfaces for consoles. Maybe I'm becoming a luddite, but it seems like a recipe for distracted driving. You can feel for a physical volume or climate control knob once you learn roughly where it is. I can't imagine using this without taking your eyes off the road.
Ford's been into EVs since at least the early 1990s (conceptually and internal R&D). There was a Ranger EV that was sold mostly to fleet users from 1998-2002. In the retail space, Ford has been selling hybrid and PHEVs since 2005, and an all-electric version of the Focus from 2012-2018. They aren't new to the electricfied game. (But yes, their electric vehicles haven't been hot sellers, but this truck should change that.)
I share some of your concerns about the screen. 15" seems a little bit overkill.
So you are right in terms of the amount of credit available per car. The confusion is that there is a per-vehicle cap on the amount each credit is worth, based on the model of the car, and ALSO a *per-manufacturer* cap of total credits available. Your chart shows the max amount a person can claim for each model of car. The determining factor is the size of the battery. Any full EV cars are eligible for the full $7,500, but PHEVs are usually not because they have much smaller batteries.ManOnTime wrote: ↑Thu May 20, 2021 2:46 pmThe credit you linked is for business and/or self-employed tax purposes.Boourns wrote: ↑Thu May 20, 2021 2:33 pmI have to respectfully correct you. The remaining credit is by manufacturer, not model. Source: https://www.irs.gov/businesses/plug-in- ... nd-irc-30d. This is why the majority of Tesla's credits were gone by the time the Model 3 hit. Tesla and GM are the only manufacturers who have sold through the 200,000. From what I can find Ford looks to be in the 130,000 range. So those remaining 70,000 will likely go real quick after this F150 is available.ManOnTime wrote: ↑Thu May 20, 2021 1:25 pm
The rebates are per model, not per manufacturer.
Ford's been into EVs since at least the early 1990s (conceptually and internal R&D). There was a Ranger EV that was sold mostly to fleet users from 1998-2002. In the retail space, Ford has been selling hybrid and PHEVs since 2005, and an all-electric version of the Focus from 2012-2018. They aren't new to the electricfied game. (But yes, their electric vehicles haven't been hot sellers, but this truck should change that.)
I share some of your concerns about the screen. 15" seems a little bit overkill.
I was looking at the charts provided here: https://fueleconomy.gov/feg/taxevb.shtml
But who knew there'd be conflicting/confusing info between governmental agencies?!
Yes, that's what I was referring to - the 200,000 unit per manufacturer phase out that only GM and Tesla have exceeded. This handy list does tell you how much of a rebate each vehicle is eligible for: https://www.irs.gov/businesses/irc-30d- ... cle-credit
I test drove the second-generation Leaf and thought it was pretty impressive.Sussa wrote: ↑Thu May 20, 2021 4:16 pmYes, that's what I was referring to - the 200,000 unit per manufacturer phase out that only GM and Tesla have exceeded. This handy list does tell you how much of a rebate each vehicle is eligible for: https://www.irs.gov/businesses/irc-30d- ... cle-credit
We were considering a GM EV last time we purchased and the looming phase out of the credit at the time played a part in how quickly we made a decision, even though we ended up getting a Nissan Leaf.
You left out the most exciting part: The base engine is Atkinson cycle!ManOnTime wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 11:44 am
Ford coming in hot with another new vehicle that has a good chance of being a game-changer.
2022 Ford Maverick. Compact uni-body truck with up to 4,000lb towing capacity, 1,500lb payload. 40mpg city with the standard 2.5L hybrid power train.
The hybrid version is FWD, but the very good 2.0L EcoBoost (~250hp) will be available with AWD.
Pricing starts at $19,995 ($21,490 with destination fee).
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a3660 ... -revealed/